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Security checks in Kenyan Churches – God is NOT Great!


Folks,
If you were in the church this last weekend, you probably got frisked by security guards. This has become the order of the day everywhere since the Al-Shabaab threats became a reality in Kenya. In the churches, you have to be frisked, you body, your handbag shall be checked before you are allowed to get into the house of the Lord. Of course, you then sit down for a sermon of how God is great, how Jesus is Lord, how he shall sort you out on almost everything, how he wants the best for you life, how you must believe in him for him to have favor with you ( religious dogma), how without him your entire life shall be messed up, you know that CRAP these pastors pull on you, working on your weaker self to persuade you that the Abrahamic God is great.

Well, for me, this contradiction is appalling. Oh, wait, i know what all you religious folks are thinking now! The Atheist is once again attacking Christianity. Just be open minded and look at the contradiction of entering a place of worship (Church) and having to be frisked to do it. If you have a good brain like me, surely you cannot believe that a God (the capital G points to the Biblical God, nothing more), who cannot protect a mere place of worship, a place where Kenyans go to exalt him, is a Great God. The God of the Bible is not Great. He is a failure, he and his son Jesus are in-effective at least, and mythical ideologies at most. And we should understand that, so long as there is a tendency to believe in God and Jesus, by Kenyans, so long as we do not move ourselves to a higher level of understanding where we make use of reason and logic, there will always be a tendency for the Pastor and Priests, the Church, to delude you with stories of a Great God and a Great Jesus, who cannot secure a few churches from Al-Shabaab attack.

And this is where Kenyans should stop and think: Then why does the Pastor and Father keep telling me that God is Great, that his son Jesus must be accepted into my life? You don’t need to accept anyone into your life. You can live without Jesus, and you can live without a belief in these mythical Gods. You can live your life without any of these delusions.

One more thing, Pastors will keep confusing you, always confusing you. That is their art, they will tell you that God works in mysterious ways, he knows what he wants, he has a reason for everything he wants to do. I simply don’t buy that CRAP. And don’t buy that CRAP either!

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12 comments on “Security checks in Kenyan Churches – God is NOT Great!

  1. David
    July 30, 2012

    i find your reasoning funny. your question are based on little understanding of truth you must understand basics to comprehend truth otherwise.

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  2. Zubi d'Nova / Melissa de Blok
    July 31, 2012

    In my – and a lot of spiritual people’s – belief system, pain and suffering are all in the mind, and a tool for life’s lessons. Your idea of God being great, is – funnily enough – based on the Christian idea of what makes God great. It is interesting to me that your definition is the same as the people you fight so hard against.

    For us, God is great because of the beautiful design of the planet. The great oceans, the intelligent manner in which our own body – with the right natural tools – can heal anything, the way we have evolved… Suffering is not something that is important, in the grander scheme of things. You ever played the Sims? The game is brilliant, because it perfectly portrays the belief system of a lot of spiritual people around the world.

    It’s interesting to note that, as a person following a belief system that some would call “pagan”, this would make us on the same team in the minds of many Christians. And yet, I can understand the Christians better in terms of seeing the unseen.

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    • Zubi d'Nova / Melissa de Blok
      July 31, 2012

      Have to add that the expression “God helps those who help themselves” is so true here.

      Saying that God is not great because people are suffering, is like saying that Picasso is not a great artist because his (63 year old) daughter didn’t eat last week. It isn’t God’s duty to make you happy; that is your own responsibility.

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      • Harry
        July 31, 2012

        If it is not Gods duty to make us happy, then why does he demand to be recognized, that his ‘son’ Jesus should be acknowledged as the truth? Why then do people pray if God should not make us happy? Why do we seek blessings from God? Are you not contradicting the very essence of gods? All gods want to be worshiped, and they have a reward system for those who worship them. I find it absurd for gods to be this demanding in their affairs.

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      • Zubi d'Nova / Melissa de Blok
        July 31, 2012

        Have to finally add this: Einstein once said that atheists are only that way due to rebelling against something that scarred them through religion (paraphrasing here).

        The anger in a lot of these posts is evident.

        I follow the people who seem to be at peace with themselves, and somehow the extreme atheists seem to be as bitter and forceful as the extreme Christians – this does not mean either Christianity or atheism are wrong, per se, but humans tend to judge a group on their loudest members.

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    • Harry
      July 31, 2012

      You say that ‘for us, God is great because of the beautiful design of the planet, the great oceans …’ Are you not being hypocritical? I don’t find the earth as having a beautiful design. In fact, the earth is a very unpredictable place to live in. We are faced with earthquakes, storms, droughts, tsunamis, all sorts of unpredictable stuff. Really? This is a beautiful design?

      I also want to explain that we are Atheists, of different shades though. We don’t subscribe to a higher metaphysical being like the Abrahamic God, or Jesus. We think the spiritual or supernatural world cannot possibly exist. We are not a religion, and therefore your use of the word ‘PAGAN’ is misplaced. The Christian God is not great. When people go to worship him, and praise him, obviously they expect that he will be happy and favor them one way or the other. But this is not the case with regard to security checks in churches. I think it is a failure on the Christian God. Anyway, for us he does not exist.

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      • Zubi d'Nova / Melissa de Blok
        July 31, 2012

        I find it gorgeous, but in the same way some find Picasso disturbed, some may find what I consider art to be disaster. Remember, in my belief system, pain and suffering is a human concept that can only be felt in the brain (which science does agree with, as without a brain, one will have no pain). Beauty does not mean the shallow typical aesthetic to everyone.

        As for the “pagan” part, my sentence was ambiguous. Apologies. I meant me – pagans are very much nature-lovers and see a Higher Power in everything natural, and in that sense, my faith/beliefs are similar.

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      • Zubi d'Nova / Melissa de Blok
        July 31, 2012

        To reply to your above comment:

        Again, interesting that you claim to be an atheist (someone who does not believe in any Higher Power), yet only seem to use the Christian definition and system of what “God” means. I always say, that before choosing a “side”, it’s better to walk through all the options. It seems you have only explored Christianity, yet that has been enough for you to conclude there is no God.

        In many faiths, there is no demand. Spiritual people like myself, who do not consider themselves religious, pray out of love, as we feel that the power of love = energy = God = creativity etc. And my prayers are semi-blasphemous in that I “pray” as though God were my peer. If the old religions are telling the truth in that there is a piece of God in all of us (ie a soul), then there is no need to “worship” or create a pedestal, as we are all great.

        Have to add, that your last line made me chuckle. Reminds me a lot of Terry Pratchett’s books – have you read him? Lord of the Rings mixed with John Cleese humour. 🙂

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      • Harry
        July 31, 2012

        I don’t think one has to be a Muslim, Christian, Buddhist and all those religions in order for you to conclude that there is no God. In fact, all you need is to get rid of the fear of hell, all sorts of dogma and become a bit more observant – and yes, make use of a bit of logic. Melissa, you sound like a fairly intelligent being. So i will employ some logic here. You must appreciate that there is no logic in creating humans, then subjecting them to a process of accepting some phenomena like Jesus so that they are guaranteed of heaven, or else they perish in hell. Does it make sense to you, that a God who loves all of us would actually take time to design a place of fire for some of us, including (especially) me?

        I think there are many reasons that i became a non-believe in gods. I think i can now sit back, work, play, think without fear of the afterlife. I am more of myself now. I am bolder in the decisions i make. Life without gods and Jesus and Mohammed is great. You are talking about prayers, yet we know very well that PRAYERS do not work! Get over it Melissa!

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      • Zubi d'Nova / Melissa de Blok
        July 31, 2012

        There are religions that say there is no hell or heaven, such as the Baha’i faith, which believes that all religions are part of the same one, but were spread for different times. Hell and heaven are states of mind.

        Afterlife is a concept not believed my many, and so is hell. Not believing in these does not make one an atheist.

        LOL at your prayer comment! You are very brainwashed by Christians, it seems. Prayer does not necessarily mean asking for things, so what do you mean by “they do not work”? Meditation is a form of prayer, and that seems to work fine. Prayer, to me, and many of us who are not brainwashed, is a way of getting in tune with your spirit/soul/self/whatever. It’s quiet time to get away from the noise in the world, and hear the music. It has proven health benefits, so unless you look at it as being a request to God (again, I only believe in myself helping myself), I don’t see how it doesn’t work!

        You may have heard of thoughts becoming things, the “secret” etc. A prayer is a thought. Nothing more, nothing fancy. Just positive thoughts. My boyfriend and I do something we call “A-pray-ciation”, where we just talk about all the things we are grateful for. I thank God, he just talks about his gratitude for the things he is happy about. He is an atheist, I am spiritual – we know that neither of our ways is “right”, but simply “right for us personally”.

        You may be more of yourself, but somehow you are very angry and it shows in your posts. If atheism is the way for you, why do you seem to not be at peace with others being what they want to be? I am at peace with my way, and at peace with you as an atheist, and with others as whatever other belief they want to belong to. Your faith makes up your personal core, so if your “faith” is atheism, then why is it not enough to simply follow it by yourself? Why the crusade?

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  3. soviet
    July 31, 2012

    Harry, i think your thinking is very simplistic and rudimentary. there is no contradiction between entering a house of god and being searched before you enter. Your idea of God and who you think he is and what he can and cannot do and what he should and shouldnt do and when and why is limited by your own ideas of benevolence, right and wrong and your sense of justice.

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  4. Viking
    June 25, 2014

    You religious are all atheists in a sense, only that you have one god left…and all that crap that the earth is intelligently designed is…just illogical.

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